Something Different This Way Comes

How do you plan when you’re longing for change? In Something Different This Way Comes, Certified Financial Planner and Locavore Heather McLeod explores two systems she wants to help fix: our food systems from fields to bellies, and our financial systems from birth to death. They are the earth and sky of what we need to change. We are Ancestors - and we can do better. Rooted in first-hand experience, nourished with nerdy fact-finding, Something Different This Way Comes shines a light towards values-led food and financial systems.

Episodes

Sep 23, 2025

43 min

Sufficiency: not too much, not too little but just right. A conversation with author, activist and educator Lloyd Alter before his visit to Thunder Bay to be the Keynote Speaker at the third annual Northwest Climate Gathering October 17-18, 2025.

Sep 23, 2025

43 min

May 20, 2025

1 hr 35 min

The John St. Extension Community Park and Gardens started guerrilla twenty years ago, one of the successful neighbourhood initiatives that informed Thunder Bay getting pro-active in supporting community gardening. This Spring Scott Pound is leading an initiative to add a community garden to the space, and grow food to be served at the Abbey's free meal program. Building community through gardening, creating welcoming spaces and daring to engage through kind conversations with strangers and neighbours.

May 20, 2025

1 hr 35 min

May 19, 2025

58 min

This was pre-recorded to be broadcast on CILU Radio Victoria Day, Monday May 19 at 6 pm here in Thunder Bay. But I messed up, didn't get the tape in on time to be cued, and they replayed last week episode instead. I hate for no-one to ever hear this! So here you go - all news referenced is detailed in the related blog post at SomethingDifferentThisWayComes.ca - Enjoy!

May 19, 2025

58 min

Apr 27, 2025

45 min

A conversation with Provincial Green Party Leader Mike Schreiner held on April 23 touches on care and community, expensive current provincial legislature discouraging renewable energy production,  the need & opportunity to build local food systems - and more.
 
Details at www.SomethingDifferentThisWayComes.ca

Apr 27, 2025

45 min

Apr 22, 2025

36 min

Why I'm in love with 17% - that's all it takes to tip Impactful Climate Action in our community from outlier to mainstream. And why I hope to see  Native Plant Gardening get trendy here this growing season. With a new song - and lots of nerdy facts to back me up.

Apr 22, 2025

36 min

Dec 19, 2023

1 hr 25 min

The Season Finale features development lawyer Richard Wong with his thoughts after talking about engaging successfully with Corporations, and financing the big changes you want to see - at the Northwest Climate Gathering in Thunder Bay last month. The new song that conversation inspired is called: It’s Time To Dance. Lyrics and more at www.SomethingDifferentThisWayComes.ca
 
Referencing:
www.NWClimateGathering.ca
https://davidsuzuki.org/press/indigenous-organizations-launch-just-transition-guide-as-counterpart-to-canadas-sustainable-jobs-act-and-net-zero-plan/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation_(2003_film)
https://www.thunderbay.ca/en/community-energy-and-emissions-plan.aspx
Net Zero Strategy Thunder Bay 2020

Dec 19, 2023

1 hr 25 min

Dec 12, 2023

51 min

Ken is the worker bee behind Just Bike TBay, the Memorial Link and Thunder Bay’s E.V. shows. And he was right at the heart of the Northwest Climate Gathering. We talk about the power of positivity and persistence, we celebrate being nerds and building community with fellow kind and courageous nerds. Ken explains why his volunteering and problem-solving is totally worth it. Song & podcast by Heather McLeod. Lyrics & more at www.SomethingDifferentThisWayComes.ca

Dec 12, 2023

51 min

Dec 5, 2023

1 hr 30 min

A season wrap before the season’s done - and a teaser for the episodes to come. With many songs, and an insider’s tour of the Northwest Climate Gathering 2023: Hope & Action. Good company as COP28 unfolds.
 
Referencing:
https://www.katharinehayhoe.com/
www.NWClimateGathering.ca
Lyrics & more at www.SomethingDifferentThisWayComes.ca

Dec 5, 2023

1 hr 30 min

Nov 28, 2023

1 hr 3 min

A rebroadcast of an episode first shared May 17, 2022. What it would take to achieve food security in Thunder Bay, and what blows Brendan’s mind in every teaspoon of soil. Brendan Grant is leading discussion of this topic at https://www.nwclimategathering.ca/ November 25 & 26 2024.
Referencing http://www.sleepygfarm.ca/

Nov 28, 2023

1 hr 3 min

Nov 21, 2023

49 min

Talking gardening, city wilderness, the satisfaction of a well-stocked garage & peace with Lucie Lavoie. Lucie is a founding member of both Superior Seed Producers and EcoSuperior, where she was a program coordinator for over twenty years. She and her partner Ken Deacon have been trying to minimize their impact on the planet for decades, including growing and keeping much of the food they eat. Lyrics and more at www.SomethingDifferentThisWayComes.ca
Referencing https://www.nwclimategathering.ca/

Nov 21, 2023

49 min

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